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I'm responding aggressively because I feel like F-Line usually posts, fact-based (or at least analysis-based) posts that I appreciate/agree with. And the last couple posts are neither. |
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This is not rocket science or nuclear physics nor is it the nature of the problems with the Cape and its aquifer, nor the Industriplex with Arsenic and other inorganic and heavy metals. But I think the use of the tracks for rail-based housing is probably the most innovative re-use |
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An interesting article from the Crimson from 2003 re: both BU and Harvard bidding for the railroad yard. The mention of the level of contamination is speculation.
And given the price per acre. the price for a heavily contaminated site would have been discounted. http://www.thecrimson.com/article/20...set-sights-on/ Now if it had been the site of a coal gas plant,.....
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Get your last photo ops of Beacon Park in action. Domestic freight transloading moves to Worcester officially on Sept. 1. All that'll remain after that are the engine house and the yard sandwiched between the toll plaza and Storrow (should stay open into 2013 because CSX still hasn't found a replacement refueling/maintenance facility in MetroWest), the 2 customers attached to the yard (Houghton Chemical and Romar Transportation), and bare trace yard freight for inside-128 customers through Fall until the new facilities in Worcester and Westborough are 100% done (probably squeezed under the Pike Viaduct so they can completely de-staff the main yard and operate strictly from the engine house). International freight already went to Worcester on April 1, and they are on-schedule to divert everything east of Framingham by year's end except for the daily to Everett terminal and irregular-schedule consists of multiple locomotives to the engine house for refueling.
Unlike Harvard, CSX is doing everything right on-schedule. Summer freight schedule to the yard from RR.net: http://www.railroad.net/forums/viewt...99099#p1059560. |
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another crane about to join the fray!
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I keep forgetting about Tata Hall! I'm almost never over in that area (who is?) and if I am I'm usually on the other side of the river. Hmm...
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Harvard's still sketchy plans for developing Barry's Corner.
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/20...orner-allston/
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Looks like some movement at Barry's Corner. Six story mixed use building with 300 residential units.
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The main problem, IMO, is a significant majority of the residences in this part of Allston are not owner-occupied, and the absentee landlords really don't give a rodent's behind. So the homeowners that are interested often have divergent, contradictory, and changing views. That plus Harvard doesn't yet own all the parcels in the so-called 'keystone' block, which is the SE corner of Barry's Corner. The other problem is that the residents fail to acknowledge/accept the stone's throw away presence of the Arsenal malls.
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The problem is that many North Allston residents think of it as a suburb and not part of the city. Therefore many of the residents attempt to exclude outsiders and block development of all kinds. Thus the current result.
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At least AIM for something better so the inevitable, disappointing result isn't that bad. |
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But I wonder if that wasn't intentional given the audience. Families ice skating and suits having drinks is probably less threatening to some of the Allston NIMBY types, than eclectic restaurants, book stores and boutiques. |
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Tata Hall today...sorry I know these are pretty crappy:
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This shot of Tate Hall is from yesterday. While walking south on Western Ave I noticed a new sign in the window of 168 Western Ave. "Coming soon! swissbakes" I'm not sure this building is owned by Harvard, but somone has been sprucing it up over the past couple of months. If I'm correct I think this is Barrys Corner Area (???).
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Select quotes from Brookline Machine Shop "Market and Financial Programming Test Fits"* presented at the Harvard-Allston meeting.
Market findings "Demand for ownership housing development at the site is expected to be consistent with demand being expressed today both in the immediate neighborhood and other neighborhoods surrounding the Harvard campus -- with the potential to draw a spectrum of end-consumer types including students, young professional singles and couples, small families (with 1 or 2 kids), empty-nester/downsizers (under 75) and seniors (75+)." "Buyers in all these categories are expected to be 'value seeking' and price sensitive with expectations set by prices being achieved in the immediate neighborhood (under $450k) and in analogous neighborhoods surrounding the Harvard campus. Riverside/Cambridgeport sale activity provides a reasonable indication of the high end of the market price potential at the site (transactions for the most analogous projects/units here are over $450k)." "The vast majority of prospective owner households in the market today are 1 and 2 person households. As a result, the greatest depth of demand and the core of the market opportunity is concentrated in the one and two bedroom unit typologies which are able to satisfy a broad range of buyer types. While larger 3 and 4 bedroom units also have the potential to draw demand, this market niche is relatively shallow and comes with more challenging economics (high unit costs drive prices above what the current market can easily shoulder). Likewise smaller studio unit demand also exists but this market niche is also narrow and less able to meet the diverse demands of the market." "The current market favors rental development over ownership. But the market is evolving - both in a macro (the condo market is beginning to improve in the middle price brackets) and the micro sense (more effective housing demand will develop as buildout continues in the neighborhood)." Financial findings "The site is small with a maximum development potential of 1.0 FAR (30,500 GSF) - so no economics of scale. Fixed costs of development must be "amortized" over a small number of program feet which drives the cost per SF of development higher -- along with the price per foot needed to deliver feasibility." "And the costs of development in an urban environment tend to be higher to begin with -- based on recent costs study completed for DHCD -- the cost is expected to fall between $200 and $300 per SF (all in) with surface parking and before profit. The cost of underground parking (estimated at $35,000 per space hard cost and over $40,000 per space with hard and soft costs) was not judged to be feasible in any program scenario." "The current market is value seeking [...] in this context the size and price per SF are inversely proportional with smaller units commanding higher prices per SF (and improved feasibility margins) and larger units commanding lower prices per SF (with more challenging feasibility margins)." "Based on our understanding of the current local/regional real estate market and its associated economic opportunities/constraints, a reasonable development response could be in the following range:
*from Byrne McKinney & Associates Inc. |
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